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Giants Say Goodbye To Daboll, Schoen Survives. Why?

BQE Admin on November 13, 2025

New York, New York

By John Jastremski

The way the last few weeks in Giants land have been trending, you had to imagine it was a question of when not if Brian Daboll was going to be relieved of his duties as Giants Head Coach. 

Now, that was quite the change from where we were back in Week 4 or Week 5 where the love affair between Daboll and his prized new quarterback Jaxson Dart appeared to be a job saver. 

What changed for Daboll because after all. Jaxson Dart looked the part and appears to be the Giants long term solution at quarterback flourishing under this head coach. 

Well, let’s start with the obvious on the field. 

It’s tough to survive a make or break season as a coach yucking up 3 double digit leads in the 4th quarter. 

Brian Daboll’s team pulled off three epic choke jobs. The Dallas game in Week 2, the all timer against the Broncos in mid October and this past Sunday against the Chicago Bears. 

The win probability for the Giants in every one of those games was no lower than 95 percent in the 4th quarter. 

The three losses combined with the overall record of Brian Daboll as an NFL head coach, made the case incredibly easy for ownership. 

After all, Daboll’s record of 20-41-1 isn’t exactly going to earn you a whole lot of good will around the fan base. 

When you consider the fact that both the Chicago Bears and New England Patriots moved on from coaches with rookie quarterbacks and both have flourished so far this season in year 2, a coaching change wouldn’t exactly keep me up at night if I’m a Giants fan thinking about Jaxson Dart. 

However, what would give me serious pause and concern for the future of the franchise is this simple fact. 

Why did General Manager Joe Schoen survive? Schoen’s record as Giants GM is exactly the same as Brian Daboll’s. 

Yes, Brian Daboll was responsible for multiple 4th quarter collapses this season, but Joe Schoen’s roster has been incredibly flawed for 4 years. 

Schoen has whiffed on a significant amount of draft picks in his time as Giants General Manager. 

Sure, Maliq Nabers was a home run last year with the 6th pick, but what about Jalin Hyatt a few years ago? 

Hyatt, Evan Neal and Deonte Banks are just three examples of horrific drafting over the past 4 seasons. 

Yes, Schoen also drafted Jaxson Dart, but if you follow the Giants and know the back story behind the pick. Dart was the hand picked selection of Brian Daboll and if you go back and watch the inside the Giants draft room video, that narrative will play out for your eyes to see. 

I can’t argue the fact that the Giants are much better positioned as a franchise compared to where they were 4 years ago with Dave Gettleman. That’s also a pretty low bar. 

The roster still needs significant work and do you honestly trust Joe Schoen to not only get the roster right over the next 3 seasons, but to go and pick the right head coach. 

The Giants were positioned for the full tilt reset across the organization, but John Mara, like he has done for the past fifteen years, decided on a different path. 

Joe Schoen survives as General Manager. We’ll see if that’s another Giant regret or a Giant positive over the next few years. 

 

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Jastremski: Is lowly NY Football about to turn a corner?

webadmin on May 4, 2022

The NY Football situation since the 2012 season has been as bad as it gets around the sport.

This is no secret, after all, just take a peak at the record for the Jets and Giants over the past ten years.

A whole lot of losses and not a whole lot of meaningful Decembers…

Last week was a unique opportunity based upon ineptitude and a wise trade for each of course. The Jets and Giants had four of the top ten picks in the 2022 NFL Draft.

I would hope it’s a situation that we don’t see ever again.

The 2022 Draft opened the door for the Giants and Jets to spark franchise turnarounds.

Look, it’s impossible to know for sure if these teams get it right or wrong, but on paper it looked quite spectacular for both teams.

The Jets are in the third year of the Joe Douglas tenure.

His 2020 draft was very suspect and his 2021 draft produced instant results.

The 2022 draft saw the Jets address three major needs. Cornerback, Wide Receiver and Defensive End.

Sauce Gardner was as good as it gets at Cincinnati. You couldn’t score on the guy.

With Tyreke Hill, Jalen Waddle and Stefon Diggs all suiting up in the AFC East, it behooves the Jets to have a lockdown corner.

The Jets had better hope Sauce is way closer to Revis than Millner…

Garrett Wilson provides second year quarterback Zack Wilson with another talented receiver to throw to. The Jets sure hope that Wilson can play alongside last years talented rookie Elijah Moore as a tandem for years to come.

In addition, Douglas wisely traded back into the first round to snag defensive end Jermaine Johnson who has a chance to be the first legitimate home grown edge rusher since John Abraham, who was drafted over twenty years ago…

The Jets have been re-tooling and rebuilding for the past few seasons, but now it’s time to start winning some games.

For the Giants, the new regime of Joe Schoen and Brian Daboll went to the roots of what has made the Giants successful with their two first round picks.

The Giants snagged the electrifying Kayvon Thibodeaux out of Oregon. Thibodeaux has a booming personality, thinks very highly of himself and should be wrecking havoc on quarterbacks for years to come.

For some, there were questions about Thibodeaux’s attitude. I don’t have the same questions, in fact I see a player who has the swagger and confidence that is made for New York.

The Giants saw the draft board fall perfectly to allow them to end up with a stud pass rusher and one of the top three linemen on the board.

Evan Neal is a big boy, has Alabama pedigree and has no issues playing Right Tackle.

A team that has had major issues on the offensive line, should have two pillars at tackle for years to come with Neal joining forces with Andrew Thomas.

On paper, everything looks terrific for both the Jets and Giants.

It’s hard for me to knock anything I saw on draft day.

However, these grades don’t go final for a few years.

The Jets and Giants have seen way too many F’s over the last few years, it’s time to start passing some NFL classes…

The Jets and Giants need some long term A’s…

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A Different Draft

webadmin on May 4, 2021

For one of the football teams in town, the draft provided little-to-no drama, playing out the way you thought it would a week ago.
It was the worst-kept secret for the last two months that the Jets were selecting Zach Wilson out of BYU as their next quarterback.
Wilson’s baby face and outward charisma will be touted in commercials and on billboards across the Big Apple in the months ahead.
Media attention for a rookie quarterback in New York City is par for the course, however the plan of attack for the Jets in building around this particular rookie quarterback is drastically different than the way they built around their prior rookie quarterback in Sam Darnold.
The Jets did a terrible job of surrounding their last quarterback with offensive talent.
Clearly, Jets general manager Joe Douglas wanted to avoid the mistakes of the past. The Jets traded up for an offensive tackle in the middle portion of the first round.
They drafted a wide receiver in the second round, and they added a running back in the later rounds.
The message from top to bottom was simple: we are going to do our best to set up a rookie quarterback in the best position imaginable.
Can I tell you for sure that in five years the Jets will be a competent, well-run organization? Of course not, but the plan in place is certainly set up for success.
For the other football team in town, the drama was all about a draft-day narrative that was squashed for good after Friday night.
In the days leading up to the NFL Draft, Giants general manager Dave Gettelman heard a pretty basic critique of his draft day strategy: “when will Dave Gettelman trade down in a draft?”
It was a fair question considering that Gettleman in his years running both the Carolina Panthers and New York Giants has never traded out of a draft pick to accumulate more assets.
In 2021, it seems like hell may be freezing over. Dave Gettelman not once, but twice traded down.
When the Giants missed out on the chance to land Alabama standout wide receiver Devonta Smith, the team made a practical move.
The Giants identified the Chicago Bears as a quarterback needy team and worked out a deal to acquire the Bears first-round pick next year plus additional assets.
In addition, the Giants found themselves in a similar position in the second round of the draft. They traded back with the Miami Dolphins and picked up their third round pick next year.
The Giants landed Florida Wide Receiver Kadarius Toney and Georgia edge rusher Azeez Ojulari, who should both fill obvious needs for the team.
It’s a win-win for the Giants, because they are also set up next year with a bundle of draft picks, a bundle of draft picks that could be used to build around Daniel Jones or to land the franchise’s next quarterback.
I look forward to grading these draft results in the years to come, but I know this, draft day was certainly done differently in New York this time around.

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